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Let me help you.
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Oh, I can get it. J-Just show me.
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This one's been acting up all day.
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Then you shouldn't let people use it.
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You gotta really get in there.
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Poetry, huh?
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You really need to put an
"Out of Order" sign on it.
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This is only half.
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All right. Well, take the original.
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I need the other half.
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The Xerox guy's gonna have to clear it.
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Then call one.
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That's my property. I'm
not leaving without it.
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The bodies were dismembered,
stuffed in trash bags,
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and spent between two and six
weeks in the Hudson River.
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None of the six victims
was ever identified.
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Cause of death never determined.
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Police were able to trace,
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uh, the articles of clothing
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to a fetish shop on Christopher Street
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that catered to the leather community.
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And there's the Lambda tattoo.
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Maybe he was a Greek scholar.
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Paul Bateson frequented the gay
bars in the Meatpacking District,
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but police could never
connect him to the bodies.
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He was only convicted for one murder
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because he called a journalist
and confessed to it.
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The final victim, Addison Verrill.
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Who was not dismembered
and stuffed in a bag,
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so why should we talk to this guy
if we don't even know he did these?
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Because he told a friend
he was the Bag Murderer.
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And that he liked to kill.
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Isn't someone who practices S&M
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already equating arousal with violence?
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- He's just a step...
- S/M.
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The correct terminology
is S/M. Sadomasochism.
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Not "sado and masochism."
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S/M is primarily the exchange of power
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between a dominant and a submissive.
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Pain and violence are just two types
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of currency within that exchange.
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There's also humiliation, fear,
sometimes even tickling.
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Tickled to death? Whole new meaning.
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The fact that one of the
victims wore a dog collar
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makes me think our guy
likes to be in charge.
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Well, due to the
condition of the bodies,
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we have no evidence of how he killed
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or whether S/M was even one of his MOs.
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Who else would prey on guys like these?
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They were into the same stuff, and
he gets off on going too far.
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Well, this isn't just a case
of someone who occasionally
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crossed the line of consent. This
is a practiced, organized killer.
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Dismembering and disposing of
the bodies without witnesses?
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I mean, that takes
planning and commitment.
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Well, there's no denying his victim pool
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is specific to what gives
him sexual pleasure.
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- But they're low-hanging fruit for him.
- I'll say.
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He's accepted in their environment,
and he knows how to lure them.
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They actually want to be tied up.
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So you're saying his victim
selection is about opportunity.
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I'm just saying that it
would be interesting
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to find out how essential
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his sexual practices
were to how he killed.
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And why.
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You know, was sadomasochism...
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just a convenient way for
Bateson to find his victims,
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- or was it fundamental to his...
- That's Atlanta.
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It's the police commissioner.
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As Jackson said, we
would like to applaud
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the decision made by the
Department of Justice
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to open an FBI investigation
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into Atlanta's missing
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and murdered children.
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Director Webster has assured me
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that the bureau will coordinate
with our own task force
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and make their abundant resources
available to our city.
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We've already been to Atlanta once.
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We've done the background work.
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The vice president's placing
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the highest priority on this.
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I don't want us to look
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like we're running a
research project down there.
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Absolutely not.
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We're there to get convictions.
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All right, Ted. I'll call Wyman,
tell him we're sending the BSU
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instead of that third
canine unit he wants.
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They better be house-trained.
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And on a short leash. You have my word.
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That was...
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Director Webster.
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The president doesn't want child murder
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lingering over his first 100 days,
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so he's throwing George Bush at this.
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The director wants to be sure
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the bureau comes out smelling
good to this administration.
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And it came down to us or Lassie.
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Essentially.
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Holden, I'd like you there
as soon as possible. Bill,
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you can fly out Monday,
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right after the directors' retreat.
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Webster's going out on a limb.
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He needs to understand who we are,
have assurance in what we can do.
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Yes, sir.
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We're budgeted through the
end, so pack accordingly.
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They're following 17 cases.
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That could be a while.
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If Webster's involved,
he's going for closure.
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We want to be part of that.
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Go do what you do, but as we've learned,
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our methods are not
always gonna be received
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with unbridled enthusiasm, so...
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Play nice.
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Play smart.
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Bill.
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We will be okay.
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Yes, sir.
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How are we supposed to fulfill
Gunn's expansive vision
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if he keeps sending you away?
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This time it comes from the very top.
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Well, I can select support staff,
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but I can't recruit and train agents.
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I need to be back in town every
Friday for some things with Brian.
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I'll spend the afternoon
here, do what I can.
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You and Gregg take Bateson.
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Keep the interviews going.
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You're going to leave Holden
alone three days a week?
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He's down there on his own
till Monday as it is.
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Gunn wants me at the directors' retreat.
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I mean, last time he managed
to get you tossed out,
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and you were with him.
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I'll call Jim Barney.
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Ask him to be Holden's
wingman till I get there.
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It's three days.
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Exactly.
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Nance?
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Back here! Jeez.
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Want some dinner?
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There's spaghetti and one chicken leg.
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No, I'm bushed.
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How's Bri?
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He's fine.
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How was your day?
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Super.
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How super?
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It was fine. Um, hand me that bag.
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Thanks.
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Is it that bad?
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Three times this week.
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If he wets again tonight,
I'm throwing them out.
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I got cheapies.
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Jesus. Brian hasn't wet the bed for...
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Three years and five months.
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Believe me, I remember.
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Today I found him playing
with his baby toys.
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Three Men in a Tub.
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It's like he's going backwards.
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Just when he was getting
some independence.
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Suddenly, I'm potty training again.
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Let's talk to Dr. Moritz tomorrow.
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Maybe it's part of the process.
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Oh, I haven't packed you yet.
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But your suit's back from the cleaners.
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It's okay. I'll pack.
Don't worry about it.
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Oh, have you spoken to Gunn today?
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Bill, you need to take time off.
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Brian needs you. I need help with him.
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Honey, I just found out today:
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after the retreat, I
have to go to Atlanta.
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We've opened an investigation
into the murders there.
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I don't have a choice.
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Okay.
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Look, I'm coming home
every Thursday night
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for the Friday appointments.
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I'll stay all weekend.
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- Every week.
- I said okay.
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You say there's nothing
you can do, so...
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the decision's been made.
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My biggest complaint is I
can't get to the Joffrey.
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But prison dried me out.
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I was draining two bottles of
vodka a day till I lost my job.
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You were a radiology technician.
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Until I was an usher in a porn theater.
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Now I'm sober, work out every day.
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And mostly they leave me unsupervised.
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Actually, I'd appreciate a
little more discipline.
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How did you meet Addison Verrill?
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Sitting at the bar at The Anvil.
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We were doing poppers.
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Started talking porn.
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He knew them all.
Appreciated the good ones.
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Good ones?
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Anybody can roll a camera
on a piece of muscle
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plowing some bottom raw.
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I can catch that live at The Tunnel.
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But there's an art to
letting things happen
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in the right rhythm.
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Finding that bond in violence.
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You watch any porn?
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Bonding in violence.
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Is that how you prefer
to relate to people?
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On a deeper level, probably.
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- Love is violence. Sex is violence.
- Is it?
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Every interaction is violence,
it's just a matter of scale.
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How much of something
do we want to feel?
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Does it feel good when
your lover takes your hand
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and you didn't expect it?
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Does it feel better when
he grabs your nipples?
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Twists them?
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What did Addison think about violence?
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Full into it.
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The films he liked, the
things he said. I could tell.
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Is that why you picked him?
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- No, we pick each other, don't we?
- But he was your type.
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No, not really.
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Usually, I don't like swishes.
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They give us all a bad name.
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Addison was holding court at the bar.
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He could've left with anyone,
but he stuck with me.
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That was nice.
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When you went back to his apartment,
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had you already decided to kill him?
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No.
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We smoked some weed.
Drank some of his Scotch.
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Had lots of sex.
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He liked it rough. That's
how they knew it was me.
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When I called that reporter,
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I told him the couch and rug
were covered in Crisco.
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Police hadn't figured out what it was.
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What happened after?
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I hadn't come down yet.
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He asked me if I wanted a joint.
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I hit him with a skillet,
and then I stabbed him.
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Was that the natural conclusion
of an arousal experience for you?
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The "rough" sex that you had,
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did it build in intensity?
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- Was...
- Sure.
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You always wanna have somewhere to go.
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Pain is the release.
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The fear... that's what
you want to play with.
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So, was killing Addison an
extension of the sexual violence?
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No, we were done.
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Wore ourselves out.
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You can only go for so long.
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Then why did you kill him?
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It... It wasn't a...
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soul act for him.
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I was looking for real connection.
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Was The Anvil
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a place that you had found
a real connection before?
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No.
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But there's always that moment...
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where something might
turn into the real thing.
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It just didn't.
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That's what we're all looking for.
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Connection.
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When you went out, were you
a dominant or a submissive?
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Those days, I was a total top.
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Those days?
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I started off as a bottom. Most do.
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That's... how you learn what to do.
262
00:14:45,843 --> 00:14:47,553
What a bottom wants to feel.
263
00:14:47,637 --> 00:14:48,650
How far you can go.
264
00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,040
So you were practiced
at finding that moment
265
00:14:51,070 --> 00:14:53,260
when things could turn...
266
00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:56,269
into nothing or into connection,
267
00:14:56,354 --> 00:14:58,524
or perhaps into deeper violence.
268
00:15:02,527 --> 00:15:03,817
The Bag Murders,
269
00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:07,283
six leathermen dumped in the
Hudson in garbage bags.
270
00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:10,540
Do you think that the
person who killed those men
271
00:15:10,952 --> 00:15:12,412
could've been experimenting?
272
00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:15,617
Seeing how it felt to go too far?
273
00:15:15,706 --> 00:15:17,876
They keep trying to get me for those.
274
00:15:20,002 --> 00:15:21,212
Gay guy into leather.
275
00:15:21,796 --> 00:15:24,166
- So imaginative.
- It's more than that.
276
00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:27,800
You also worked in a hospital. You
had some training in anatomy,
277
00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:29,641
access to medical instruments.
278
00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,560
I wasn't squeamish if
that's what you're asking.
279
00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:34,769
- But I wasn't a surgeon.
- You did confess to a friend.
280
00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:37,521
You... actually told him, verbatim,
281
00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:40,019
"I like to kill."
282
00:15:40,189 --> 00:15:41,479
Ugh. God...
283
00:15:41,649 --> 00:15:44,569
We were all so fucked up at the time.
284
00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:48,740
The cops actually said if I confess,
285
00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,121
I would do less time on a plea deal.
286
00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,289
- Less time?
- Crazy, right?
287
00:15:52,368 --> 00:15:54,448
They just want to say
they closed the books.
288
00:15:54,537 --> 00:15:55,657
Keep the queens happy.
289
00:15:55,746 --> 00:15:56,760
But I got news:
290
00:15:56,780 --> 00:16:00,037
the queens want this to be
some uptight straight guy.
291
00:16:00,418 --> 00:16:01,958
Why would they care who it is?
292
00:16:02,044 --> 00:16:04,554
Perceptions matter when you're
an "aberration," Anita.
293
00:16:09,010 --> 00:16:10,760
We can't be seen as eating our own.
294
00:16:11,471 --> 00:16:13,641
Do you think it was an
angry straight guy?
295
00:16:15,183 --> 00:16:17,603
Leathermen can smell a
straight guy a mile away.
296
00:16:18,102 --> 00:16:19,522
No one would go anywhere with him.
297
00:16:19,604 --> 00:16:21,694
Clubbers are looking for guys
who know what they're doing.
298
00:16:21,772 --> 00:16:23,732
So the killer would be experienced.
299
00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:25,526
He'd be cruising for the guy...
300
00:16:25,943 --> 00:16:28,203
that wants exactly
what he wants to give.
301
00:16:29,614 --> 00:16:32,284
He's watched a thousand guys,
gone home with hundreds.
302
00:16:32,783 --> 00:16:35,543
Feeling for the right pulse, the
right quickening of breath.
303
00:16:37,288 --> 00:16:40,788
He's looking for the guy
that just wants it.
304
00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:42,035
Nobody wants to die.
305
00:16:42,126 --> 00:16:45,706
No, but some want to feel
what it's like to almost die.
306
00:16:47,465 --> 00:16:49,215
They let you go just a bit further.
307
00:16:51,552 --> 00:16:52,642
Might even beg you.
308
00:16:53,179 --> 00:16:54,509
And that would excite him?
309
00:16:54,972 --> 00:16:56,062
Of course.
310
00:16:56,390 --> 00:16:57,820
So he would know the victims,
311
00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,770
may have been with them
intimately before.
312
00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:01,812
Why waste time on an unknown?
313
00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:04,520
And then what would he do?
314
00:17:06,192 --> 00:17:07,192
And then...
315
00:17:09,487 --> 00:17:10,527
he works 'em.
316
00:17:12,406 --> 00:17:13,406
Hard.
317
00:17:14,992 --> 00:17:16,412
Until there's a connection.
318
00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:18,249
What sort of connection?
319
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,250
Well, that's the mystery.
320
00:17:25,586 --> 00:17:27,206
It's trust with fear.
321
00:17:27,672 --> 00:17:28,972
Complete vulnerability.
322
00:17:29,507 --> 00:17:32,297
He lets the master take him
just across that line.
323
00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:33,885
How?
324
00:17:36,222 --> 00:17:37,522
How would he kill him?
325
00:17:37,598 --> 00:17:39,928
How long would he take?
What would he use?
326
00:17:40,017 --> 00:17:41,557
What marks would he leave?
327
00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:46,234
Everyone in the scene's
into their own thing.
328
00:17:46,315 --> 00:17:48,565
You'd have to ask him. Alan.
329
00:17:49,235 --> 00:17:50,565
- Yeah.
- I'm ready.
330
00:17:50,861 --> 00:17:52,341
All right. Let's move him out.
331
00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:01,464
Only your killer would know that.
332
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:37,370
Good morning.
333
00:18:58,846 --> 00:18:59,846
Holden.
334
00:18:59,980 --> 00:19:01,390
Jim!
335
00:19:01,682 --> 00:19:02,772
This has grown.
336
00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:04,560
Looks like they've narrowed
it down to half the city.
337
00:19:04,644 --> 00:19:07,614
They're all over the map on this.
Smells like desperation.
338
00:19:07,688 --> 00:19:10,228
We got a real lead last night.
You should hear it.
339
00:19:11,734 --> 00:19:13,404
A whole generation of Negro wiped out
340
00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:15,276
with each one of these dead kids.
341
00:19:15,363 --> 00:19:17,993
You'll find the last one in
the woods by Sigman Road.
342
00:19:18,282 --> 00:19:20,702
And you can count on another
one every month from now on.
343
00:19:20,730 --> 00:19:21,750
Sir, can you give me
344
00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,747
the exact location of...
345
00:19:23,829 --> 00:19:25,249
Sir? Sir?
346
00:19:31,128 --> 00:19:32,298
I can't say.
347
00:19:33,130 --> 00:19:34,760
They all sound the same to me.
348
00:19:35,758 --> 00:19:36,770
Just meanness.
349
00:19:36,780 --> 00:19:38,509
Sorry to make you listen to that.
350
00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:39,724
Thank you, Beverly.
351
00:19:44,684 --> 00:19:46,394
Y'all still looking for my Earl?
352
00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:49,500
He'd be 11 now. Might be taller.
353
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,540
Yes ma'am.
354
00:19:50,564 --> 00:19:52,364
You can be sure we're lookin'.
355
00:20:00,157 --> 00:20:01,577
Call came in last night.
356
00:20:02,660 --> 00:20:05,660
Staked out a three-mile stretch
of Sigman Road overnight...
357
00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:06,746
nothin'.
358
00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:10,249
First light, put in search teams
on the ground and in the air.
359
00:20:10,334 --> 00:20:13,054
We have agents questioning known
Klan members in the area.
360
00:20:13,129 --> 00:20:15,089
We'll find the body,
but, uh, Jim here says
361
00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:17,262
you might be able to
help us find the caller.
362
00:20:17,341 --> 00:20:19,391
- You won't find a body.
- Oh, I'll find it.
363
00:20:19,468 --> 00:20:22,098
Got 250 searchers working
grids, canine units.
364
00:20:22,179 --> 00:20:24,099
There is no body. He's not your man.
365
00:20:25,683 --> 00:20:27,693
- Excuse me?
- It might be the same caller
366
00:20:27,768 --> 00:20:30,088
as the Terrell case, but he's
not your killer. It's a hoax.
367
00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:34,649
You can tell me that by
listening to a tape once?
368
00:20:34,734 --> 00:20:36,944
Same tape we've been
listening to since midnight?
369
00:20:37,027 --> 00:20:38,050
Think about it.
370
00:20:38,362 --> 00:20:41,952
The entire purpose of organizations
like the Klan is to sow terror.
371
00:20:42,032 --> 00:20:44,582
Why would they wait until number
18 to claim responsibility?
372
00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:47,750
Young man, I've been dealing
with the Klan my whole life.
373
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:50,750
Sometimes their only purpose is
to kill whatever black person
374
00:20:50,833 --> 00:20:52,253
they can get their hands on.
375
00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:53,786
I have no good reason to doubt this
376
00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:55,588
just because it's not
what you want to hear.
377
00:20:55,671 --> 00:20:57,751
But then why call the
police, not the press?
378
00:20:58,257 --> 00:21:01,297
We've learned from Berkowitz, the
Zodiac... they want a story.
379
00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:03,301
Lasting mythology.
380
00:21:03,888 --> 00:21:05,678
To find that, they go
straight to the press.
381
00:21:05,765 --> 00:21:08,385
It makes the police look like
they're the last to know.
382
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:12,229
That sounds like a grand
theory, Agent Ford.
383
00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:13,983
Like you put a lot of thought into it
384
00:21:14,064 --> 00:21:15,864
in the two minutes we've
been standing here.
385
00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:19,031
But I'm operating on the actual
fact that five days ago...
386
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:21,990
Lubie Geter, number 18,
387
00:21:22,072 --> 00:21:25,622
was dropped off at a mall parking
lot to sell car deodorizers.
388
00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:27,121
He never came home.
389
00:21:27,495 --> 00:21:29,365
His mama calls me twice a day.
390
00:21:31,499 --> 00:21:33,959
Besides him, I got four
other boys still missing...
391
00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:37,440
numbers six, eight,
twelve, and fourteen,
392
00:21:37,490 --> 00:21:39,260
in case you don't wanna remember names.
393
00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:41,720
And this call is the only lead we got.
394
00:21:42,218 --> 00:21:43,218
Are you coming?
395
00:21:58,692 --> 00:21:59,692
Brian...
396
00:22:00,444 --> 00:22:03,034
can you tell me why you
took the boys to the house?
397
00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:12,412
Was it because the baby was crying?
398
00:22:13,707 --> 00:22:16,287
Did you think you could make
him feel better in the house?
399
00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:21,130
It's okay, Bri.
400
00:22:21,215 --> 00:22:22,735
You can talk to the doc...
401
00:22:29,974 --> 00:22:32,314
Do you remember the
boys holding the baby?
402
00:22:37,898 --> 00:22:40,028
Did you think they were
trying to help him?
403
00:22:41,902 --> 00:22:43,282
To make him stop crying?
404
00:22:54,790 --> 00:22:57,590
It's best for them to know
no one will answer for them.
405
00:22:57,770 --> 00:22:58,837
I understand.
406
00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:01,759
Is it necessary to make
him remember everything?
407
00:23:02,256 --> 00:23:04,426
Well, it may be uncomfortable for us,
408
00:23:04,508 --> 00:23:06,758
but it allows him to
relate to his feelings
409
00:23:06,844 --> 00:23:08,354
in an accepting environment.
410
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,390
His teacher says Brian isn't
participating in class
411
00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:16,396
and has no interaction with his peers.
412
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:18,100
You spoke with Brian's teacher?
413
00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:20,108
Miss Leland did a class visit.
414
00:23:20,357 --> 00:23:22,437
- What she observed...
- Excuse me.
415
00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:24,528
She was in his class?
416
00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:28,202
Caseworkers have no obligation
to inform you of school visits.
417
00:23:36,582 --> 00:23:38,882
Have you noticed changes
in his behavior?
418
00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:43,341
Brian has started wetting
his bed again...
419
00:23:43,650 --> 00:23:44,757
on occasion.
420
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,050
Almost every other night.
421
00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:49,053
Even one event tells us a lot
about a patient's progress.
422
00:23:49,136 --> 00:23:50,256
Like what?
423
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,010
What does it tell us?
424
00:23:52,473 --> 00:23:54,933
- Well, secondary enuresis is most...
- Secondary what?
425
00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:56,807
Uh, enuresis. Uh...
426
00:23:57,019 --> 00:23:59,479
Bed-wetting subsequent to
successful toilet training.
427
00:24:00,022 --> 00:24:02,522
The most common cause is
psychological trauma.
428
00:24:03,067 --> 00:24:05,107
He's sleeping with his baby toys,
429
00:24:06,362 --> 00:24:07,822
things he hasn't touched in years.
430
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:10,220
Emotional regression
can also be a marker
431
00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:12,028
for processing extreme distress.
432
00:24:13,077 --> 00:24:15,747
- Is there anything else?
- He's been sucking his thumb.
433
00:24:21,502 --> 00:24:24,592
I'm prescribing a low dose of
desmopressin for the bed-wetting.
434
00:24:24,672 --> 00:24:25,842
You want him to take a pill?
435
00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:27,593
It's important he doesn't
develop behaviors
436
00:24:27,675 --> 00:24:29,965
that place him in a
regressed emotional state.
437
00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:34,258
And you need to set limits.
438
00:24:34,550 --> 00:24:35,603
If he wets the bed,
439
00:24:35,683 --> 00:24:37,393
make him responsible for
washing the sheets.
440
00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:39,136
Isn't he gonna think
we're punishing him?
441
00:24:39,228 --> 00:24:41,558
Well, you're helping him to
deal with what he experienced
442
00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:42,767
instead of displacing it.
443
00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,476
Brian never mentions it.
444
00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:47,355
The other day we drove by the
house where it happened.
445
00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:50,454
He watched it go by, and he
blurted out, "I want pancakes."
446
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:54,280
Is trauma really what's
causing him to wet the bed?
447
00:24:54,368 --> 00:24:55,900
Isn't it possible that making him
448
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,868
come to a doctor's office once a week,
449
00:24:58,414 --> 00:25:01,294
having some woman show up at
his school and stare at him,
450
00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:02,785
- giving him pills...
- Nance.
451
00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:06,086
... isn't it possible that those
things are making him regress?
452
00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:08,721
He's reminded every day
that he's not normal.
453
00:25:09,925 --> 00:25:13,595
If he was at home, doing the
things he used to do...
454
00:25:13,679 --> 00:25:16,269
Kids get over stuff. They forget.
455
00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:17,468
Mrs. Tench,
456
00:25:18,809 --> 00:25:21,899
children do not simply forget trauma.
457
00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:24,516
No one simply forgets.
458
00:25:45,586 --> 00:25:47,336
Let me get that for you, sir.
459
00:25:48,922 --> 00:25:51,012
- Hey, thanks.
- A pleasure, sir.
460
00:26:00,851 --> 00:26:03,191
- I'm with the bureau retreat.
- Yes, sir.
461
00:26:03,979 --> 00:26:06,939
Bill. You're just getting here?
462
00:26:07,608 --> 00:26:08,630
Cutting it close.
463
00:26:08,942 --> 00:26:11,652
I wanted to clear off my desk
before leaving town, sir.
464
00:26:11,737 --> 00:26:14,237
The judge's plane took off late,
so you get a little reprieve.
465
00:26:14,323 --> 00:26:15,373
The judge?
466
00:26:15,449 --> 00:26:17,699
Director Webster was a judge
before his appointment.
467
00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:19,500
He prefers his judicial title,
468
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,830
which, in rules of protocol,
takes precedence.
469
00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,918
He is a man who appreciates
pecking order.
470
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Good to know.
471
00:26:26,627 --> 00:26:29,127
The judge's advance.
Gentlemen, how long?
472
00:26:29,213 --> 00:26:30,513
Pulling in now, sir.
473
00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:31,969
- There you are.
- Thank you.
474
00:26:32,049 --> 00:26:33,219
It's good to be king.
475
00:26:33,717 --> 00:26:34,757
Yes, it is.
476
00:26:35,803 --> 00:26:38,603
The schedule has you in for an
hour, but keep it to 40 minutes.
477
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,600
And... maybe lose the jacket and tie.
478
00:26:41,183 --> 00:26:43,023
These retreat symposia
are 90 percent retreat,
479
00:26:43,102 --> 00:26:44,352
ten percent symposia.
480
00:26:45,229 --> 00:26:46,609
I'll buy you a little time.
481
00:26:47,064 --> 00:26:49,694
- Judge.
- Ted, great to see you.
482
00:26:50,484 --> 00:26:53,204
- You already got a round in.
- And Wyman owes us all a drink.
483
00:26:53,821 --> 00:26:56,571
- We'll cut you in.
- Mm, okay, then. Gentlemen.
484
00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:05,790
Brian.
485
00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:11,588
Brian, your sandwich is ready.
486
00:27:29,189 --> 00:27:30,189
Brian?
487
00:27:40,075 --> 00:27:41,075
Brian?
488
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:50,344
Brian!
489
00:27:57,384 --> 00:27:58,384
Brian!
490
00:28:04,308 --> 00:28:05,308
Adele!
491
00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:07,475
Have you seen Brian?
492
00:28:17,112 --> 00:28:18,112
Brian?
493
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:21,699
Brian!
494
00:28:25,954 --> 00:28:27,624
Did you hear me calling you?
495
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:38,719
Go on, honey.
496
00:28:39,343 --> 00:28:40,343
Go on.
497
00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:42,392
You can go play with her.
498
00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:45,056
Come on, Paige.
499
00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:47,139
It's time to go.
500
00:28:49,380 --> 00:28:50,640
Come on, honey.
501
00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:53,193
Grandma's waiting for us.
502
00:29:00,364 --> 00:29:03,164
Brian, we don't stare. Remember?
503
00:29:03,242 --> 00:29:04,242
It's impolite.
504
00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:06,832
Look at me.
505
00:29:08,664 --> 00:29:10,294
I need you to come home...
506
00:29:10,874 --> 00:29:11,884
so we can...
507
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:43,949
- Delta Sector, report.
- Chief Redding, I feel like we...
508
00:29:44,032 --> 00:29:45,872
Delta Sector report negative.
509
00:29:46,702 --> 00:29:48,372
... sector report negative.
510
00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:52,423
Sir, chopper needs to refuel. He
suggests suspending for the night.
511
00:29:56,128 --> 00:29:57,958
All sectors, all sectors, suspend.
512
00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:00,666
- Y'all start coming on in.
- Copy that.
513
00:30:01,174 --> 00:30:02,634
- No body.
- Come on, bring it in, guys!
514
00:30:02,718 --> 00:30:04,088
- That what you wanted to hear?
- Let's go!
515
00:30:04,177 --> 00:30:06,007
No, sir. It's not.
516
00:30:06,096 --> 00:30:07,756
It's bad if you don't find one.
517
00:30:08,724 --> 00:30:09,934
Worse if you do.
518
00:30:10,017 --> 00:30:11,937
I wanted to say, I feel
like we started off wrong.
519
00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:13,198
You could say that.
520
00:30:13,220 --> 00:30:15,189
I only meant we don't wanna waste our...
521
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,938
your resources on every tip.
522
00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:20,443
Over the past year, I've
pulled children's bodies
523
00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:23,447
out of creek beds,
woods, vacant buildings.
524
00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:25,200
Chief, we'll be opening the road here
525
00:30:25,282 --> 00:30:27,372
- as things clear out.
- Roger.
526
00:30:27,451 --> 00:30:29,831
We have thousands of acres
of untended property.
527
00:30:30,454 --> 00:30:32,714
When we get any lead that
narrows it to one road,
528
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:34,419
I have no choice but to take it.
529
00:30:34,499 --> 00:30:36,789
We've learned things about how
these types of killers think.
530
00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:38,209
We can anticipate them,
531
00:30:38,295 --> 00:30:40,705
focus on their next move
instead of just reacting.
532
00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:43,304
We have a meeting Monday morning
with all the jurisdictions.
533
00:30:43,383 --> 00:30:45,933
You have a way to narrow
things down, happy to hear it.
534
00:30:46,011 --> 00:30:47,891
Now I have to go brief the mayor.
535
00:30:47,971 --> 00:30:49,811
Shit.
536
00:30:50,098 --> 00:30:51,268
Stay back!
537
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:53,800
Chief Redding! Chief Redding!
Chief Redding,
538
00:30:53,820 --> 00:30:55,270
has there been another body found?
539
00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:56,533
Did the FBI initiate this search?
540
00:30:56,550 --> 00:30:57,814
We heard about a phone call.
541
00:30:57,898 --> 00:30:59,318
Did you find a body?
542
00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:01,399
I have no statement at this time.
543
00:31:02,486 --> 00:31:03,776
Was there a body found?
544
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,322
Did the FBI call for this search?
545
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,680
Will the FBI work with APD,
546
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:08,445
or are you running your
own investigation?
547
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:11,543
Any leads? Any suspects?
548
00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:12,870
Any more leads?
549
00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:18,916
It's a local case, Ted. It's
gotten national attention.
550
00:31:19,002 --> 00:31:22,342
The bureau responding to this
is like a tail wagging the dog.
551
00:31:22,422 --> 00:31:24,382
Agent Tench,
552
00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:28,430
you're going down there. What can
your unit bring to this case?
553
00:31:29,137 --> 00:31:31,467
Well, sir, we'll be
looking for connections.
554
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:33,977
We think some of these
cases may be linked.
555
00:31:34,059 --> 00:31:36,059
Sir, the work these guys are
doing is groundbreaking.
556
00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:37,564
They've interviewed Manson.
557
00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:39,864
Manson's crazier than a shithouse rat.
558
00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:43,818
Can we really learn from
someone like him, Agent?
559
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:46,072
We've also interviewed
more cogent subjects.
560
00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:47,204
Such as?
561
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,370
Ed Kemper.
562
00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:49,658
The Co-ed Killer.
563
00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:52,201
- Beheaded ten college girls.
- Well, six actually.
564
00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:53,495
But he did kill ten people.
565
00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:54,698
What was he like?
566
00:31:55,205 --> 00:31:56,245
To talk to?
567
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,330
Well, he's 6'9".
568
00:31:59,380 --> 00:32:00,390
Oh!
569
00:32:00,419 --> 00:32:01,919
So he could be a little intimidating
570
00:32:02,003 --> 00:32:03,883
to sit across from with no guard,
571
00:32:03,964 --> 00:32:05,344
no sidearm, no cuffs.
572
00:32:05,841 --> 00:32:08,091
But you have to develop
a level of trust.
573
00:32:08,176 --> 00:32:10,256
One day, we brought a pizza
in and had lunch with him.
574
00:32:10,345 --> 00:32:12,425
We're dividing slices
while he's telling us
575
00:32:12,514 --> 00:32:14,724
how hard it is to sever a head.
576
00:32:16,226 --> 00:32:19,186
And this guy has hands
like catcher's mitts,
577
00:32:19,521 --> 00:32:21,441
and he's sitting three feet away.
578
00:32:21,898 --> 00:32:22,898
How did he do it?
579
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,280
How did he kill 'em?
580
00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:26,146
He picked up hitchhikers,
581
00:32:26,236 --> 00:32:27,896
drove them to a wooded area,
582
00:32:28,530 --> 00:32:30,120
and then stabbed and strangled them.
583
00:32:30,532 --> 00:32:32,662
Then he raped 'em and
cut off their heads.
584
00:32:33,076 --> 00:32:34,486
And then he raped the heads.
585
00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:38,000
Why decapitation?
586
00:32:38,081 --> 00:32:39,671
He collected them...
587
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:41,625
as trophies.
588
00:32:42,419 --> 00:32:44,549
Kemper was the first to make us see
589
00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:48,339
these killers develop a
sickening personal signature.
590
00:32:48,425 --> 00:32:52,385
And we're learning these offenders
start having fantasies very young.
591
00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:55,724
They practice: dolls, animals.
That escalates.
592
00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:57,826
I dealt with my share of
criminals from the bench.
593
00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:00,806
Most of them were bad from
the start, even as kids:
594
00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:02,606
runaways, loners.
595
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:03,689
They never fit in.
596
00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:06,527
I always said when I had a
juvenile I knew was bad,
597
00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:08,240
I wish I could put him away for life.
598
00:33:09,362 --> 00:33:10,702
You could just see it
599
00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:11,820
in their eyes.
600
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:14,909
Gentlemen,
601
00:33:15,702 --> 00:33:18,162
they keep a well-stocked
humidor behind the bar
602
00:33:18,246 --> 00:33:19,706
that I turned a blind eye to.
603
00:33:20,916 --> 00:33:21,996
Shall we?
604
00:33:39,893 --> 00:33:41,813
- Hello?
- Hey, it's me.
605
00:33:41,895 --> 00:33:44,515
It's late. What time is it?
606
00:33:44,606 --> 00:33:45,726
It's almost 10:00.
607
00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:48,735
I just called to check in
on you. How's Brian?
608
00:33:49,236 --> 00:33:50,236
Fine.
609
00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:52,238
Now.
610
00:33:52,822 --> 00:33:54,072
What do you mean, "now"?
611
00:33:55,325 --> 00:33:57,445
He got out. I... I couldn't find him.
612
00:33:57,550 --> 00:33:58,640
Got out?
613
00:33:58,662 --> 00:34:01,792
I went door to door.
614
00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:04,794
Finally found him in the park.
615
00:34:06,086 --> 00:34:08,586
He was staring at this child. Just...
616
00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:11,795
staring.
617
00:34:15,095 --> 00:34:16,295
But he scared me.
618
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:19,019
What do you want me to do, Nance?
619
00:34:19,099 --> 00:34:20,099
Nothing.
620
00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:22,563
Everything's done.
621
00:34:23,353 --> 00:34:24,943
I just... wanted to tell you.
622
00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:27,478
Honey, I don't know what to say.
623
00:34:27,941 --> 00:34:31,071
How about, "I'm gonna
take time off to help"?
624
00:34:32,529 --> 00:34:34,449
You know I can't do that right now.
625
00:34:34,656 --> 00:34:35,656
I know.
626
00:34:36,157 --> 00:34:37,197
You have to work.
627
00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:38,792
I just...
628
00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:42,544
honestly don't know if I
can do this alone, Bill.
629
00:34:42,622 --> 00:34:43,922
You're not alone.
630
00:34:45,292 --> 00:34:46,422
I have to go to sleep.
631
00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:01,730
Hey, sit down.
632
00:35:01,808 --> 00:35:03,558
- Whiskey, please.
- Sure thing.
633
00:35:03,643 --> 00:35:05,403
I still want to hear about Manson.
634
00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:09,230
Make it a double.
635
00:35:11,192 --> 00:35:14,702
"Do you find yourself getting
so lost in your own thoughts
636
00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:17,619
that you ignore and
forget your surroundings?
637
00:35:18,074 --> 00:35:19,124
All the time.
638
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,410
Some of the time.
639
00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:21,543
Occasionally.
640
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:22,660
Never."
641
00:35:24,164 --> 00:35:25,214
- Wen.
- Huh?
642
00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:28,460
Should I answer for you? I think
I have a good shot at this one.
643
00:35:30,503 --> 00:35:33,053
- Where'd you get that?
- Found it on a bus.
644
00:35:33,173 --> 00:35:34,843
- Ew.
- Come on, it'll be fun.
645
00:35:35,175 --> 00:35:36,635
I'm gonna mark that one as...
646
00:35:37,177 --> 00:35:38,387
"some of the time."
647
00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:42,308
Uh... "Is it difficult
to get you excited?"
648
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:44,350
Oh, you should probably answer that one.
649
00:35:44,434 --> 00:35:45,489
Come on, you have to
take this seriously,
650
00:35:45,490 --> 00:35:46,500
or the results won't be accurate.
651
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:49,309
I find it kind of difficult to take
a Myers-Briggs test seriously,
652
00:35:49,397 --> 00:35:52,027
especially one that has a panty
liner ad on the back of it.
653
00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:54,238
I should just focus on this.
654
00:35:54,319 --> 00:35:55,859
Come on. There's only a couple left.
655
00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,655
"Do you find yourself
initiating conversations?"
656
00:35:58,740 --> 00:35:59,990
- Yes.
- Really?
657
00:36:00,075 --> 00:36:02,325
Yeah. I initiated conversation with you.
658
00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:03,750
Because you wanted to fuck me.
659
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:05,828
I initiate conversations all day.
660
00:36:05,914 --> 00:36:08,004
Oh, an interview's not a conversation.
661
00:36:08,083 --> 00:36:10,963
You know, whose test
is this? Yours or mine?
662
00:36:11,044 --> 00:36:12,804
I'm just trying to get to know you.
663
00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:15,089
It feels a little like you're
trying to get to correct me.
664
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:18,343
Well, would you rather tell
me about whatever it is
665
00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:20,096
that you're burying your face in?
666
00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:23,845
I'm sorry, ask me another one.
667
00:36:25,141 --> 00:36:26,141
No.
668
00:36:27,227 --> 00:36:28,227
Come on.
669
00:36:29,437 --> 00:36:30,797
Tell me about what you're reading.
670
00:36:31,356 --> 00:36:33,566
It's the, uh... It's
the Bateson interview.
671
00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:35,935
- Okay.
- Mm.
672
00:36:38,947 --> 00:36:41,907
It's just a fine line of
giving them enough attention
673
00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:43,281
so that they'll engage with you,
674
00:36:43,368 --> 00:36:45,538
but also being able to
steer the conversation.
675
00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:48,457
And when it's over in
just a few minutes, it...
676
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:49,620
Wasn't worth the effort?
677
00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:51,628
He was surprisingly
forthcoming in the beginning.
678
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:54,550
He answered every question,
even volunteered information.
679
00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:57,666
But when I got to the questions
I really wanted to ask,
680
00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,047
he just walked out.
681
00:36:59,134 --> 00:37:00,514
So he rope-a-doped you?
682
00:37:00,969 --> 00:37:03,299
- I don't know what that means.
- Rumble in the Jungle?
683
00:37:03,388 --> 00:37:05,808
You know, when Ali let George
Foreman punch himself out.
684
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,390
Yeah. Sure, he, uh, "rope-a-doped" me.
685
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:10,580
Oh, I'm sure he had plenty of practice
686
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:12,726
leading people down the garden path.
687
00:37:13,189 --> 00:37:14,819
No, I should have seen it coming.
688
00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,569
I mean, I've been studying manipulators
689
00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:18,321
- my whole career.
- Oh.
690
00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:20,571
On paper.
691
00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:31,170
No, I'm... I'm just saying that you...
you don't have to be an expert
692
00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:33,079
at everything the first time.
693
00:37:34,544 --> 00:37:35,544
Huh.
694
00:37:36,296 --> 00:37:37,836
It's just a bit disappointing.
695
00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:45,642
Another sad chapter in the
epidemic of child murders
696
00:37:45,722 --> 00:37:47,642
unfolded today in Rockdale County
697
00:37:47,724 --> 00:37:51,354
where the FBI conducted an
unsuccessful search along Sigman Road.
698
00:37:51,436 --> 00:37:53,936
Channel 2 has been unable
to confirm reports
699
00:37:54,022 --> 00:37:57,192
that a man called in a tip about
where a body could be found.
700
00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,605
The FBI and police had no comment.
701
00:38:00,487 --> 00:38:03,737
Meanwhile, the search for
14-year-old Lubie Geter continues.
702
00:38:04,324 --> 00:38:05,704
That's it for us tonight.
703
00:38:05,784 --> 00:38:07,044
It's 10:30.
704
00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:08,998
Do you know where your children are?
705
00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:16,753
I always want you present
in the local room
706
00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:19,796
where my reporters and Mr. Wallace Cook
707
00:38:19,881 --> 00:38:23,221
can drink you in constantly
708
00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,391
as a warning against fakes!
709
00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:41,275
Agent Ford.
710
00:38:43,738 --> 00:38:44,738
Tanya.
711
00:38:45,573 --> 00:38:47,413
Hi.
712
00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:51,695
I thought that was you.
I saw you'd checked in,
713
00:38:51,788 --> 00:38:53,208
for a while it looks like.
714
00:38:53,373 --> 00:38:54,423
Until it's over.
715
00:38:55,917 --> 00:38:57,337
I was expecting you sooner.
716
00:38:57,418 --> 00:39:00,048
I came the moment they opened
an official FBI investigation.
717
00:39:02,215 --> 00:39:03,295
And...
718
00:39:04,384 --> 00:39:06,784
you should know we've moved
beyond looking into the families.
719
00:39:08,054 --> 00:39:11,604
I came down specifically to
refocus the APD's efforts.
720
00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:14,306
I saw on the news someone
called about a body.
721
00:39:14,936 --> 00:39:15,936
He a suspect?
722
00:39:16,729 --> 00:39:18,359
I can't say officially, but...
723
00:39:18,439 --> 00:39:21,649
A man calls to tell you he did it,
you may want to consider him.
724
00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:26,662
I'm not at liberty to
discuss details, but...
725
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:31,410
my unit is here to focus on
726
00:39:31,494 --> 00:39:33,370
what we consider most probable.
727
00:39:33,403 --> 00:39:35,374
Most probable for each child?
728
00:39:35,748 --> 00:39:37,288
They all got different things going on.
729
00:39:37,370 --> 00:39:38,940
Some of them hustling
jobs here and there.
730
00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:40,705
Carrying groceries, running errands.
731
00:39:40,795 --> 00:39:42,915
A few of them might've gotten
themselves into situations
732
00:39:43,006 --> 00:39:45,256
- they didn't know were dangerous.
- What does that mean?
733
00:39:45,341 --> 00:39:48,641
You looking at where these kids work?
Parking lots, drive-throughs?
734
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:49,970
I'm sure we will.
735
00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:54,812
Our most recent was seen selling
car deodorizers outside a mall.
736
00:39:55,351 --> 00:39:56,391
Lubie Geter.
737
00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:57,557
Right.
738
00:39:57,645 --> 00:39:59,605
Not all of 'em have car
deodorizers to sell.
739
00:39:59,689 --> 00:40:01,069
They do whatever they can.
740
00:40:01,149 --> 00:40:02,359
What do you mean? Drugs?
741
00:40:02,442 --> 00:40:04,362
There's drugs, panhandling.
742
00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:07,414
Some kids learn to steal
little things and sell them.
743
00:40:08,615 --> 00:40:11,025
Folks have been saying
that a few of these boys
744
00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:12,737
could be selling themselves.
745
00:40:12,827 --> 00:40:14,867
These kids are 11, 12.
746
00:40:14,954 --> 00:40:17,214
Every kid is told to
watch out for strangers.
747
00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:21,836
Most have no idea how dangerous
some strangers can be.
748
00:40:23,296 --> 00:40:24,956
All I'm sayin' is...
749
00:40:25,048 --> 00:40:27,218
... you all should be looking
at those people too.
750
00:40:31,054 --> 00:40:33,774
This is the Omni. Tanya speaking.
How may I help you?
751
00:40:36,935 --> 00:40:38,225
Absolutely. One moment.
752
00:42:18,161 --> 00:42:19,791
- Morning.
- Good morning.
753
00:42:23,958 --> 00:42:26,338
What do you know about child
prostitution in Atlanta?
754
00:42:26,419 --> 00:42:27,839
I know it goes on.
755
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,210
The same as any big city.
756
00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:32,473
It's not something I've dealt with,
757
00:42:33,176 --> 00:42:34,586
but I can ask Atlanta PD.
758
00:42:35,650 --> 00:42:36,717
Why?
759
00:42:36,804 --> 00:42:39,894
I need files on known pedophiles
in the greater Atlanta area.
760
00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:42,314
Sure. We can look into that.
761
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,613
It looks like greater
Atlanta just walked in.
762
00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:50,399
Gonna be interesting to
see how they take to us.
763
00:42:50,485 --> 00:42:52,485
There's no reason for them
not to want our help.
764
00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:55,030
Bill!
765
00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:57,574
Hey!
766
00:42:58,409 --> 00:42:59,409
Good to see ya.
767
00:42:59,470 --> 00:43:00,500
Welcome, Bill.
768
00:43:00,536 --> 00:43:01,536
This is us.
769
00:43:02,371 --> 00:43:04,121
Sorry to miss first day of school.
770
00:43:04,749 --> 00:43:06,129
What are we starting with?
771
00:43:06,626 --> 00:43:09,296
We're about to walk into a
meeting with the county chiefs.
772
00:43:09,378 --> 00:43:12,168
Chief Redding wants our advice on
how to focus the investigation.
773
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:13,590
Sounds good.
774
00:43:17,303 --> 00:43:19,723
For instance, David
Berkowitz, Son of Sam,
775
00:43:19,806 --> 00:43:20,886
told us he was compelled
776
00:43:20,973 --> 00:43:24,023
to go back to a specific site
where he had killed before.
777
00:43:24,102 --> 00:43:25,902
To physically relive the experience.
778
00:43:26,521 --> 00:43:28,061
You interviewed Son of Sam?
779
00:43:28,147 --> 00:43:29,170
We did.
780
00:43:29,357 --> 00:43:32,487
So the theory is, instead of
trying to cover all of Atlanta,
781
00:43:32,568 --> 00:43:35,358
we concentrate on where we
believe the killer may return.
782
00:43:35,446 --> 00:43:38,946
We'll deploy teams to canvass
previous abduction and dump sites,
783
00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:41,833
narrowing our scope to these
higher probability areas.
784
00:43:41,911 --> 00:43:43,871
Go back over all the ground
we've already covered?
785
00:43:43,955 --> 00:43:46,115
Neighbors may have seen
someone returning to a scene.
786
00:43:46,207 --> 00:43:47,707
Maybe something was moved or left.
787
00:43:47,792 --> 00:43:49,342
Y'all are assuming it's one suspect.
788
00:43:49,418 --> 00:43:51,798
We got 18 cases spread
all over kingdom come.
789
00:43:51,879 --> 00:43:55,129
So many murders in the same
age and socioeconomic range
790
00:43:55,216 --> 00:43:57,586
is highly improbable without
at least some being linked.
791
00:43:57,677 --> 00:43:59,387
That how we're gonna proceed, Chief?
792
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,390
Seems like we're ignoring
a lot of possibilities.
793
00:44:01,472 --> 00:44:03,522
Nobody's saying rule anybody out.
794
00:44:04,767 --> 00:44:06,347
But let's focus our manpower.
795
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Chief, this kind of focus means
796
00:44:08,060 --> 00:44:10,359
recanvassing 18 abduction
and dump sites,
797
00:44:10,439 --> 00:44:12,649
plus reinterviewing dozens of witnesses.
798
00:44:12,733 --> 00:44:14,113
Gonna really stretch your manpower.
799
00:44:14,193 --> 00:44:16,653
We can use academy recruits
to fill out the teams.
800
00:44:17,029 --> 00:44:19,239
Only way we'll be able
to even half-ass it.
801
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:21,699
Based on this,
802
00:44:22,869 --> 00:44:25,909
I'm redeploying today's search
to a previous dump site...
803
00:44:26,497 --> 00:44:27,497
Redwine Road,
804
00:44:27,582 --> 00:44:29,422
where we found Milton Harvey's remains.
805
00:44:30,126 --> 00:44:33,586
Assemble your teams. See if
this amounts to anything.
806
00:44:34,130 --> 00:44:36,670
- Thank you, Chief.
- Thank you.
807
00:44:36,757 --> 00:44:38,927
- Thank you.
- Thank you, gentlemen.
808
00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:46,984
Remember Earl Terrell? I'd
like to work his case.
809
00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:49,689
He's still missing, but I think we
could do more than we did for him.
810
00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:52,150
Of course. Mind if I
round out your team?
811
00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:53,861
Think I'll join the
Chief at the dump site.
812
00:44:53,941 --> 00:44:54,960
Okay.
813
00:44:55,234 --> 00:44:56,824
So he was last seen
814
00:44:56,903 --> 00:44:58,863
at the pool across the park.
815
00:44:59,155 --> 00:45:01,445
It was a long time ago,
but do you remember him?
816
00:45:01,532 --> 00:45:02,550
I seen him.
817
00:45:02,867 --> 00:45:04,447
Him and a couple others.
818
00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:07,249
You recall seeing him last summer?
819
00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:09,463
Yeah. Lots of times.
820
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:11,710
Are you out here on your
porch two days a week?
821
00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:13,342
- Three?
- Well, if it's hot,
822
00:45:13,419 --> 00:45:14,629
I'm out here every day.
823
00:45:15,087 --> 00:45:17,217
So in the summer, I see everybody.
824
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:23,300
Sometimes... them kids head down...
825
00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:25,433
that house there.
826
00:45:25,806 --> 00:45:27,766
- The brick house?
- Mm-hmm.
827
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:30,940
And sometimes they go to Elsie's. There.
828
00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:33,154
- That yellow house?
- Mm-hmm.
829
00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:36,191
Ma'am, are those glasses prescription?
830
00:45:36,484 --> 00:45:37,944
These are my readers.
831
00:45:38,027 --> 00:45:39,147
For my stories.
832
00:45:39,654 --> 00:45:42,664
Anything else you told the
officers before could be helpful.
833
00:45:43,074 --> 00:45:44,954
Weren't no officers come here.
834
00:45:45,034 --> 00:45:46,914
Ain't nobody ask us nothin'.
835
00:45:48,204 --> 00:45:49,914
Thank you, ma'am. You've
been very helpful.
836
00:45:49,997 --> 00:45:51,517
- Mm-hmm.
- Thank you.
837
00:45:53,084 --> 00:45:54,794
There's no car at the brick house.
838
00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:56,303
Elsie's first.
839
00:45:56,379 --> 00:45:58,089
That's the third person we've talked to
840
00:45:58,172 --> 00:46:00,132
within one block of where
this kid disappeared,
841
00:46:00,216 --> 00:46:01,756
and not one of them was interviewed.
842
00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:04,512
Starting to think there's a lot
that's dropped through the cracks.
843
00:46:06,264 --> 00:46:08,894
We called and told them Earl
came by the day he went missing,
844
00:46:08,975 --> 00:46:10,515
but nobody came askin'.
845
00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:14,483
He was looking for Albert, but Albert
wasn't home, so Earl, he left.
846
00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:18,324
Albert, get in here.
847
00:46:23,114 --> 00:46:24,244
Tell 'em about Earl.
848
00:46:27,201 --> 00:46:30,121
Him and Lubie come over
to play sometimes.
849
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:31,368
I wasn't here.
850
00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:32,455
Lubie Geter?
851
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,880
- He and Earl knew each other?
- Yeah.
852
00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:38,923
Earl act sometimes like
Lubie's big brother,
853
00:46:39,005 --> 00:46:40,165
take him around and stuff.
854
00:46:40,256 --> 00:46:41,416
Where would Earl take him?
855
00:46:41,757 --> 00:46:43,467
You know, just around.
856
00:46:43,843 --> 00:46:45,923
Do you know where else Earl
might have gone that day?
857
00:46:47,722 --> 00:46:48,892
It's all right, baby.
858
00:46:48,973 --> 00:46:50,893
They with the FBI. You can tell them.
859
00:46:52,143 --> 00:46:53,143
See?
860
00:46:54,603 --> 00:46:55,603
You wanna hold it?
861
00:46:57,189 --> 00:46:59,229
Anybody else Earl might
have gone to play with?
862
00:46:59,859 --> 00:47:01,439
They used to hang with Pat-Man.
863
00:47:01,777 --> 00:47:03,397
Does Pat-Man have a last name?
864
00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:04,737
Won't do no good.
865
00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:07,492
He was... uh, one of them.
866
00:47:07,992 --> 00:47:08,992
One of them?
867
00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:11,786
He was right before Lubie. His
real name was Patrick Rogers.
868
00:47:11,871 --> 00:47:13,501
I didn't like him comin' around here.
869
00:47:13,581 --> 00:47:15,001
He too old for these boys.
870
00:47:15,916 --> 00:47:17,626
Anything else you can tell the men?
871
00:47:17,710 --> 00:47:19,500
Excuse me, the ME's heading out
872
00:47:19,587 --> 00:47:21,207
to Redwine Road. They found something.
873
00:47:22,882 --> 00:47:24,132
Thank you so much, ma'am.
874
00:47:29,263 --> 00:47:31,563
Let's get the address
for the brick house.
875
00:47:37,063 --> 00:47:39,193
Guys, these remains are
less than 100 yards
876
00:47:39,273 --> 00:47:41,693
from where Milton Harvey
was dumped 13 months ago.
877
00:47:41,776 --> 00:47:44,446
He's returning to the scene.
What's the press doing here?
878
00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:47,088
Get down there and set up a perimeter!
This is now a crime scene.
879
00:47:49,575 --> 00:47:50,985
Forensics show up yet?
880
00:47:51,077 --> 00:47:52,997
We don't have a body retrieval unit.
881
00:47:53,329 --> 00:47:55,209
Recruits will collect any evidence.
882
00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:56,671
It's not Lubie Geter.
883
00:47:56,749 --> 00:47:57,789
Been out here too long.
884
00:47:57,875 --> 00:47:59,875
But it could be one of the
other three still missing.
885
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,750
Earl Terrell was wearing
shorts when he disappeared.
886
00:48:01,837 --> 00:48:02,837
What do you got?
887
00:48:03,714 --> 00:48:05,384
I found these close to the road.
888
00:48:05,466 --> 00:48:08,216
A tennis shoe, one cigarette butt,
and a couple of porno mags.
889
00:48:08,302 --> 00:48:09,852
- Porno?
- Yes, sir.
890
00:48:09,929 --> 00:48:11,099
Gallery and Penthouse.
891
00:48:11,764 --> 00:48:14,774
There's tire tracks, a heavy
vehicle, near where we found 'em.
892
00:48:14,850 --> 00:48:17,270
- Body! Body!
- Body!
893
00:48:17,395 --> 00:48:19,195
Come on! Body!
894
00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:23,071
Get this stuff into evidence
bags and get some gloves.
895
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:24,120
Yes, sir.
896
00:48:24,151 --> 00:48:26,491
We need to get a real
forensics unit down here.
897
00:48:26,654 --> 00:48:27,994
Three bodies at one site.
898
00:48:28,364 --> 00:48:31,534
It's one guy. And this is his graveyard.
899
00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:41,421
Well, lucky he had a prior.
900
00:48:42,169 --> 00:48:44,459
Never would have traced the
prints off those magazines.
901
00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:46,756
A plumber.
902
00:48:47,341 --> 00:48:49,681
Runs his own business
out of his rented home.
903
00:48:50,803 --> 00:48:52,053
Short rap sheet.
904
00:48:52,596 --> 00:48:54,516
- One incident of petty theft.
- What kind?
905
00:48:54,598 --> 00:48:55,678
Clothing? Personal items?
906
00:48:55,766 --> 00:48:56,766
Tires.
907
00:48:57,351 --> 00:48:59,901
Seemed like he needed a
set of 4 when he was 19.
908
00:49:01,313 --> 00:49:03,523
No, uh, prior assault.
909
00:49:05,151 --> 00:49:06,821
No history of racial violence.
910
00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:08,780
Sound like our man?
911
00:49:09,822 --> 00:49:11,702
Wait a minute, this guy's Caucasian.
912
00:49:11,782 --> 00:49:14,872
Doesn't change anything if we can
tie him directly to a scene.
913
00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:16,495
We should at least follow up on that.
914
00:49:16,579 --> 00:49:19,289
Those magazines are adult
women, not black children.
915
00:49:19,790 --> 00:49:22,380
Even if the labs are positive
for semen, it supports nothing.
916
00:49:22,793 --> 00:49:25,923
Holden, we have three bodies
within 100 yards of each other.
917
00:49:26,005 --> 00:49:28,755
There's no doubt the unsub's
dumping them there.
918
00:49:28,841 --> 00:49:30,891
I'm just saying, before we drag in...
919
00:49:31,385 --> 00:49:34,715
Pickett Yarborough, he's
not who we're looking for.
920
00:49:36,849 --> 00:49:38,099
Did we run his car?
921
00:49:38,601 --> 00:49:40,731
White 1975 pickup truck.
922
00:49:40,811 --> 00:49:42,061
No police-type vehicle.
923
00:49:42,146 --> 00:49:43,726
No, but utilitarian.
924
00:49:43,814 --> 00:49:45,904
You could keep a hunting kit
without drawing suspicion.
925
00:49:45,983 --> 00:49:47,033
We could surveil him.
926
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:49,199
If he smells us at all,
he'll destroy evidence.
927
00:49:49,278 --> 00:49:50,528
We need to get warrants.
928
00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:52,908
Search his house, his truck.
929
00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:55,826
I think we should bring him in.
930
00:49:56,035 --> 00:49:57,615
Even if it's just to rule him out.
931
00:49:57,703 --> 00:49:59,623
Jim, you're familiar with
DA Slaton, are you not?
932
00:50:01,207 --> 00:50:02,787
Slaton's third generation law.
933
00:50:02,875 --> 00:50:04,125
He ain't by the book,
934
00:50:04,919 --> 00:50:05,999
he is the book.
935
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,530
Excuse me, gentlemen, we're
closed for an event.
936
00:50:33,614 --> 00:50:35,784
We need to speak with
District Attorney Slaton.
937
00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:37,276
If you could point him out to us.
938
00:50:37,368 --> 00:50:39,998
Uh, I'm sorry, we're a
private institution.
939
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,369
I'm happy to let Mr. Slaton
know you're here, mister...
940
00:50:42,456 --> 00:50:44,456
Special Agents Tench, Ford, and Barney.
941
00:50:44,542 --> 00:50:47,462
Excuse me a moment? Mr. and
Mrs. Peteet, right this way.
942
00:50:50,010 --> 00:50:51,094
Well...
943
00:50:51,549 --> 00:50:52,629
enjoy your evening.
944
00:50:53,259 --> 00:50:56,889
Mr. Slaton is making an address
at the moment. Excuse me.
945
00:50:56,971 --> 00:50:58,931
Mr. and Mrs. Hamilton, right this way.
946
00:51:00,182 --> 00:51:01,272
I apologize.
947
00:51:02,059 --> 00:51:03,979
If you gentlemen could just wait in...
948
00:51:05,271 --> 00:51:08,401
wait in here, I'll ask if
he can see you afterwards.
949
00:51:11,443 --> 00:51:12,443
Thank you.
950
00:51:13,696 --> 00:51:14,946
Mr. and Mrs. Trambley.
951
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:18,990
We're only going to get
Slaton's ear for a minute.
952
00:51:19,076 --> 00:51:21,786
I'll call and see if the labs are back.
953
00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:24,160
It's been my pleasure to serve as chair
954
00:51:24,180 --> 00:51:25,790
of the fund drive this season.
955
00:51:26,083 --> 00:51:29,423
I told the board, I can't
string two notes together,
956
00:51:29,503 --> 00:51:31,383
but I know good music when I hear it.
957
00:51:31,463 --> 00:51:33,763
Our symphony stands up
against any in the country.
958
00:51:34,174 --> 00:51:37,434
New York, Philadelphia, you name it.
959
00:51:37,511 --> 00:51:39,101
Music lover. Who'd have thought?
960
00:51:39,179 --> 00:51:42,309
But no cultural organization
can flourish...
961
00:51:43,017 --> 00:51:45,347
without benevolent
donors like yourselves.
962
00:51:45,686 --> 00:51:49,516
You are the very lifeblood
of the arts in Atlanta.
963
00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:53,901
Yes, my wife wrote
that last part for me.
964
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,650
But it's absolutely true.
965
00:51:56,572 --> 00:51:59,912
These musicians are a
credit to their community,
966
00:52:00,576 --> 00:52:03,326
to our city, and to the
great state of Georgia.
967
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:07,629
So please, give generously...
and enjoy your evening.
968
00:52:07,708 --> 00:52:08,708
Thank you.
969
00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:15,669
Labs are back. No blood, but
definite seminal fluid.
970
00:52:15,758 --> 00:52:18,758
Gonna be a hard sell.
971
00:52:27,311 --> 00:52:29,481
I'd hoped since you gentlemen
thought it necessary
972
00:52:29,563 --> 00:52:31,363
to pull me out of my wife's event,
973
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,240
which took three months to plan,
974
00:52:33,290 --> 00:52:34,857
you'd have a more compelling argument.
975
00:52:34,943 --> 00:52:37,153
Sir, if I can explain our methodology.
976
00:52:37,237 --> 00:52:39,527
I'm an evidence man, Agent Tench.
977
00:52:39,615 --> 00:52:42,325
You have no eyewitness
account, no relevant priors,
978
00:52:42,409 --> 00:52:45,749
no evidence directly tying
this man to any of the bodies.
979
00:52:46,205 --> 00:52:50,205
Sir, these types of crimes
are sexually motivated.
980
00:52:50,292 --> 00:52:53,172
The men who perpetrate them are
compelled to repeat the crime...
981
00:52:53,629 --> 00:52:55,839
or to relive the sexual satisfaction
982
00:52:55,923 --> 00:52:59,223
by going to crime scenes and
feeling that relief again.
983
00:52:59,301 --> 00:53:01,261
Finding three bodies over time
984
00:53:01,345 --> 00:53:03,675
and a clear-cut scene
of self-gratification
985
00:53:03,764 --> 00:53:05,274
at the same remote site...
986
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:07,179
We're concerned that
if we merely surveil,
987
00:53:07,267 --> 00:53:10,267
the suspect will destroy the
evidence you'll need to prosecute.
988
00:53:10,354 --> 00:53:12,114
As intriguing as that sounds,
989
00:53:12,773 --> 00:53:16,153
I've never issued warrants based
on radical psychological theories.
990
00:53:16,235 --> 00:53:18,775
My constituents trust that I
will protect their rights
991
00:53:18,862 --> 00:53:20,572
against unlawful search and seizure.
992
00:53:20,656 --> 00:53:22,826
Lubie Geter has been
missing for six days.
993
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:25,700
We've got no leads and
the clock is ticking.
994
00:53:29,248 --> 00:53:30,248
I'll grant your warrants.
995
00:53:31,542 --> 00:53:33,922
But I want no press.
996
00:53:34,670 --> 00:53:35,670
None.
997
00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:39,133
This must remain absolutely silent.
998
00:53:39,466 --> 00:53:40,466
Understood.
999
00:53:43,095 --> 00:53:44,175
- It's okay.
- No.
1000
00:53:44,263 --> 00:53:46,273
- Baby, don't worry about me.
- What's happening?
1001
00:53:46,348 --> 00:53:47,808
- It'll be all right.
- Don't touch me.
1002
00:53:47,891 --> 00:53:49,181
It'll be fine, baby.
1003
00:53:49,268 --> 00:53:51,688
- This is a mistake.
- Don't you touch me!
1004
00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:54,230
Honey! Honey, please just
tell me, what's happening?
1005
00:53:56,024 --> 00:53:57,614
Don't you touch me.
1006
00:53:59,278 --> 00:54:01,158
- It's okay, baby.
- Hon... Honey?
1007
00:54:01,488 --> 00:54:02,698
Honey, please come back.
1008
00:54:04,575 --> 00:54:07,055
He can't know we've got his truck
until we get him in the room.
1009
00:54:09,329 --> 00:54:10,329
Hey!
1010
00:54:12,082 --> 00:54:15,342
- Send him around the block.
- Go ahead. Circle around.
1011
00:54:27,389 --> 00:54:28,429
I don't know, guys.
1012
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:38,620
Who's going first?
1013
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:39,904
Nobody for a while.
1014
00:54:39,985 --> 00:54:42,145
We ought to at least start
working through the timeline.
1015
00:54:42,237 --> 00:54:44,447
He might have a string of
alibis for all we know.
1016
00:54:44,531 --> 00:54:47,281
We found it's best to let them
wait, especially at night.
1017
00:54:47,367 --> 00:54:49,447
If this is the guy, it's
the best way to break him.
1018
00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:54,121
Where are we with him?
1019
00:54:56,418 --> 00:54:57,418
Commissioner.
1020
00:55:01,340 --> 00:55:03,340
How confident are we
he's our perpetrator?
1021
00:55:03,425 --> 00:55:04,965
We won't know until we get in there.
1022
00:55:05,052 --> 00:55:07,222
Well, let's start working on him.
The longer we keep him,
1023
00:55:07,304 --> 00:55:09,224
the more likely someone
will get wind of this.
1024
00:55:09,306 --> 00:55:10,806
Slaton said he was very clear with you.
1025
00:55:10,891 --> 00:55:12,521
This is about setting
the right conditions,
1026
00:55:12,601 --> 00:55:14,021
creating leverage with the subject.
1027
00:55:14,102 --> 00:55:15,852
We may only get him once
in this state of mind.
1028
00:55:15,938 --> 00:55:18,478
If we get nothing from him
and this hits the papers,
1029
00:55:18,565 --> 00:55:20,855
this will be our second
public setback in a week.
1030
00:55:20,943 --> 00:55:22,743
We should put as much
effort into law enforcement
1031
00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:24,660
- as we do managing perceptions.
- Holden.
1032
00:55:24,738 --> 00:55:26,528
Right now, we better put
together a statement
1033
00:55:26,615 --> 00:55:28,735
because looks like they got hold of it.
1034
00:55:28,826 --> 00:55:29,826
Shit.
1035
00:55:32,496 --> 00:55:34,456
I'll let them know it's
an ongoing investigation.
1036
00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:36,120
We're in the process of ID'ing bodies.
1037
00:55:36,208 --> 00:55:37,578
I don't think so.
1038
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:52,849
How does the press find
out everywhere we go?
1039
00:55:53,976 --> 00:55:55,096
I don't know,
1040
00:55:55,185 --> 00:55:57,645
but I hope we find something
in that fucking truck.
1041
00:55:58,897 --> 00:56:01,067
I cannot comment on the
individual at this time,
1042
00:56:01,149 --> 00:56:05,449
other than to say that we have
issued a custodial warrant.
1043
00:56:05,529 --> 00:56:07,069
No charges have been issued.
1044
00:56:08,907 --> 00:56:11,657
Ladies and gentlemen, we
will keep you apprised.
1045
00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:17,369
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